How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price
Jose Macedo of Delphi Digital and Ari Paul of BlockTower Capital talk about why a crypto asset can have wildly different prices in the public and private markets, and how they try to figure out what it’s really worth.
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The problem of low float, high fully diluted valuation (FDV) coins is one that is frequently discussed in crypto. But there’s another wrinkle: investors need to understand the unrealized gains of these coins to really understand the price.
In this episode, Jose Macedo of Delphi Digital and Ari Paul of BlockTower Capital explain the various metrics that reveal what a coin is really worth, why a wave of token unlocks that will be hitting the crypto markets in the next few years are not bullish, and whether there is a better way to design token unlocks for teams and insiders.
Plus, they cover whether venture capitalists are extractive to crypto, whether these games with circulating supply and FDV have caused investors to turn to memecoins, and why they believe the ICO era was better for retail investors.
Show highlights:
- Why upcoming token unlocks are creating market jitters
- How the ratio of unrealized gains to market cap influences token price movements
- How some token projects manipulate their reported circulating supply
- Whether and how everyday investors can uncover the truth about token projects
- What secondary market trading says about the potential impact of upcoming token unlocks
- Why Jose believes that the current token launch strategy, despite its flaws, is still favored by insiders and unlikely to change soon
- Why some projects favor decisions that are more likely to result in short-term gains over long-term success
- Why Jose believes that simple time-based token unlocks often work better than complex metrics, and how projects can balance funding with realistic success metrics
- Why Ari believes the SEC's investigations into VCs for acting as securities dealers might be justified, and how these practices resemble pump-and-dump schemes
- With numerous token unlocks looming, why the outlook is bearish for many projects, and what challenges they face in mitigating potential sell-offs
- Why many crypto investors might end up holding the bag in the current cycle, despite plans to sell early and avoid losses
- What the future role of VCs is in crypto, and how the influx of token unlocks and the rise of memecoins could shape the bull cycle
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Guests:
- Jose Macedo, founder at Delphi Labs
- Ari Paul, CIO of BlockTower Capital
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High FDV and unlocks:
- Unchained:
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- Cobie newsletter: New launches (part 1) - private capture, phantom pricing
- Rocknblock: Token vesting explainer
- CoinDesk: 'Liquid Vesting' Is Oxymoronic Blockchain Feature That Lets Early Investors Sell Without Waitin
- Jose’s thread that inspired the episode
- Ari’s post responding to Jose’s thread
- Token.unlocks.app: Token vesting tracker
Solutions:
- Hack VC: Potential Solutions to Crypto's Unlock Problem
- Colony Lab: Early-Stage Program & Liquid Vesting
- Imran Khan’s tweet on Blast https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1806040646433522149
Unchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC. Distributed by CoinDesk. Senior Producer is Michele Musso and Executive Producer is Jared Schwartz.
HOST
Laura Shin is a crypto journalist, host of the Unchained podcast, and author of “The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies, and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze” (Public Affairs, 2022). Formerly a senior editor at Forbes, she was the first mainstream journalist to cover crypto full-time, and her podcasts and videos have had more than 15 million downloads and views. Shin has spoken about cryptocurrency at places such as TEDx San Francisco, the International Monetary Fund, Singularity University and the Oslo Freedom Forum.
She graduated Phi Beta Kappa with Honors from Stanford University and has a master of arts from Columbia University’s School of Journalism. She lives in New York City.

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